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mouse poison?
by virtdave • Mon 16 Jul 2012 18:45

I participate in an electronic bulletin board related to our place in California, and have recently been taken to task for admitting that I use mouse poison in my cupboard when we close up here for the winter, and when we garage our car there for the summer--mice there have eaten several folks' car wiring. Some folks object that this puts domestic pets, and raptors, at risk, as they might eat the poisoned mouse. Any opinions? Or facts?

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Re: mouse poison?
by Dave • Mon 16 Jul 2012 21:02

Although it is possible that you might poison both the mouse and a predator, it always seems to me that this is unlikely, since most poisons are fast acting and painful for the mouse so in all likelihood it will die in its burrow. Predators, in general, do not feed on animals that they did not kill, although there are certain exceptions to this, but this will exclude most pets.

I wouldn't put down poison where it could be eaten by pets by mistake, but I would use it inside a space that was known to be pet free or via a bait box (like these) that was pet safe.

Personally I prefer to use snap traps, however these aren't helpful if you aren't there to dispose of the bodies and reset them (so glue traps like these are out on the same basis). Most of the electronic stuff looks like gimmicky trash with mixed results at best (and all are shunned completely by the professional), so there seems little alternative in any case. Anybody that has had rodent damage knows that doing nothing isn't an option, especially if there is a ready food source nearby.

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Re: mouse poison?
by Creusebear • Mon 16 Jul 2012 22:19

I will put my hands up to leaving poison down in the house when we are not in residence. I certainly do not want to be responsible for a pet or a predator being accidently affected so Dave's words make a lot of sense. I would not use poison in an open environment as the local wildlife has enough to contend with without indescriminate poisoning but in this rural spot I suspect I am in the minority.

I can see a gap in the market for 'no come back nuisible annihilation'. Perhaps a poison that wears off in the little corpse after a bit, you know, like Round Up it could deactivate after contact and be degraded by micro organisms. I think I should put in a patent.

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Re: mouse poison?
by Jeanne • Tue 17 Jul 2012 06:55

When you aren't there I don't think you have much choice.

Last year my husband went to a job where the client had been in the UK for several months and the place was alive with them. They had got in to the cupboards and the food was all over the place. While he tried to work they were running around him. Not very pleasant.

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Re: mouse poison?
by Annik • Tue 17 Jul 2012 08:59

When we go back to England we leave sachets of poison under the bath and in various places where the dogs couldn't possibly get at them when we are there.

We wouldn't use it anywhere in the open or where something other than the targeted species could get it.

The poison is so attractive to mice that one year we found they had got into the ancient cupboard in the wall where we keep it, and had gnawed through the plastic lid of the container in order to feast on it.

I don't know what happens to the victims. We don't find many bodies. I always have an irrational fear that there will be one lurking when I put my feet into my wellies, so I bang them upside down on the ground before putting them on (as if I was in the tropics or Australia!!!).

I think Creusebear is right when she says it would be a very good idea to market a poison where you knew that it wouldn't affect a dog or cat that found a poisoned rodent body.

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Re: mouse poison?
by virtdave • Tue 17 Jul 2012 09:48

Thanks for the responses. Tho I do use traps when I am around to service them, when we leave for the winter it's poison....I am indeed careful about placing it where only rodents can access it. And all the food is inside sealed containers. Since starting this program, we're much less hassled by rodents, at least inside the house.

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Re: mouse poison?
by lestroisours • Wed 18 Jul 2012 17:46

We didn't have a mouse problem, until Dotte & Dashe arrived, and brought their catches home for us to inspect. However the vole & mouse population doesn't seem to suffer as they bring one or two each home each day. It's the bl*** fleas that jump ship when they do are the problem!

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Re: mouse poison?
by grandad • Thu 19 Jul 2012 09:44

I would very much like to know which variety of mouse poison Annik uses ??

Our commune issues bags of raticide/souricide once or twice a year, treated grain. We normally try to put it down in lengths of waste pipe ( 2inch ish) to keep it away from anything that can't crawl in there, so other animals are pretty safe.

Much like the moles, it's very tempting to feel sorry for the nice little furry things, but in the end I feel sorrier for myself so they have to go.

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Re: mouse poison?
by Annik • Fri 20 Jul 2012 00:05

It's called "Le Specialiste CAUSSADE anti-nuisibles, Nouveau Hyper-attractif, PAT'APPAT souricide raticide". I have no idea which of these names is the one by which it is referred - I am just copying the label!

The poison comes in litte pink sachets.

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Re: mouse poison?
by ihusker • Fri 20 Jul 2012 20:22

Your mouse/rat poison sounds to be the answer. I wonder if you could tell us where you buy it from please.

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